Jimmy Massey: «I have been a psychopathic murderer»

Two photos of Jimmy Massey in Iraq after the US invasion of that country took place in March 2003.
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«I’m 32 and I am a trained psychopathic murderer. The only things I can do are to sell youths the idea of joining the marines and kill. I am not able to keep a job. For me civilians are despicable people, mentally retarded and weak persons, a flock of sheep. I am their sheepdog. I am a predator. In the army they used to call me Jimmy, the Shark»

That was part of the second chapter of the book Jimmy wrote three years ago, with the assistance of journalist Natasha Saulnier, and which was launched at the 2007 Caracas Book Fair. Cowboys of Hell is the most violent testimony that has been written thus far based on the experience of a former member of the Marine Corps, one of the first to arrive in Iraq during the 2003 invasion. Jimmy Massey is determined to tell, as many times as necessary, what having been a merciless marine for twelve years meant to him and why the Iraq war changed him.

Jimmy participated as a panelist at the fair’s main workshop, which had a controversial title: «The United States, the Possible Revolution» and his testimony possibly had the strongest expected impact on the audience. He has his hair cut in the military style and wears sun glasses; he walks with martial air and he has his arms covered with tattoos. He looks just like what he used to be: a marine. But when he speaks he looks different: he is someone marked by a horrifying experience from which he tries to keep other unwary youths away. As he assures in his book, he has not been the only one to have killed people in Iraq; that was a permanent practice by his fellow men. Four years after having abandoned the war, he still feels he is being chased by his nightmares.

Rosa Miriam: What do all those tattoos mean?

Jimmy Massey: I’ve got a lot of them. I was tattooed in the military. Here in my hand (he shows his thumb and his ring finger), you can see the Blackwater logo, the mercenary army founded where I was born, there in North Carolina. I had this one done in an act of resistance because marines are not allowed to tattoo the area between their wrists and their hands. One day the members of my platoon got drunk and we all had the same tattoo done: a cowboy with bloodshot eyes over several aces, representing death. It means exactly what is going on: «you killed somebody. » On the right arm is the marines’ logo with the flags of the United States and Texas, where I joined the US armed forces. On my chest, here on the left side there is a Chinese dragon ripping the skin and which means that pain is our weakness leaving our body. What kills us makes us stronger.

Cover of the book «Cowboys of Hell», which was launched at Caracas´ Book Fair (FILVEN 2007) in the presence of Jimmy Massey. You can order the book by writing to Timeli publishing house: mail@timeli.ch and thus support our journalist investigations.
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Rosa Miriam: Why did you say that you had met the worse people ever in your life in the US Marines?

Jimmy Massey: The United States only has two ways of using the marines: to undertake humanitarian missions and to kill. Over the 12 years I was with them, I never took part in humanitarian missions.

Rosa Miriam: Before you went to Iraq you recruited youths for the marines. Can you describe a recruiting officer in the United States?

Jimmy Massey: A liar. The Bush administration has forced the US youths to join the armed forces and what the government basically does –and I did too—is trying to get people through economic incentives. During three years I recruited 74 youths who never told me that they wanted to join the armed forces because they wanted to defend their country or due to any patriotic reason. They wanted to get money to go to university or get a health insurance. So, I would first tell them about all those advantages and only in the end I would tell them that they will serve our homeland. I never happened to recruit the son of a rich person. In order to keep our job, we as recruiting officers, could not think of any scruples.

Rosa Miriam: I understand that the Pentagon has been less demanding as to the requisites to join the army. What does that mean?

Jimmy Massey: recruiting standards have enormously been eased, because almost nobody wants to join in. Having mental problems or a criminal record is no longer a problem. Persons that have committed felonies can join the army; that include those who have been given over-one-year sentences, which is considered a serious crime. Also accepted are youths who have not concluded high school studies; if they pass the psychological test, they can join the army.

Rosa Miriam: You changed after the war, but could you tell me about your feelings before that?

Jimmy Massey: I felt just like the other soldiers who believed what they were told. However, since I began my recruiting work I felt bad about it: as a recruiting officer I had to tell lies all the time.

Rosa Miriam: But, you believed that your country was involved in a fair war against Iraq.

Jimmy Massey: Yes, Intelligence reports we received read that Saddan had weapons of mass destruction. Later, we found out that everything was a lie.

Rosa Miriam: When did you find out you had been deceived?

Jimmy Massey: Once in Iraq, where I arrived in March 2003. My platoon was ordered to go to the places formerly controlled by the Iraqi army and we saw thousands of thousands of ammunitions in boxes bearing the US label; they were there since the US had supported the Saddan government against Iran. I saw some boxes with the US flag on them and I even saw American tanks. My marines—I was a sergeant with E-6 category, a staff sergeant, which is a higher rank and I had 45 marines under my command— would ask me why there were US ammunitions in Iraq. They couldn’t understand it. CIA reports said that the Salmon Pac was a terrorist camp and that we would find chemical and biological weapons there, but we found nothing. In that moment I began to think that our real mission in Iraq was focused on oil.

Rosa Miriam: The most disturbing lines in your book are those in which you describe yourself as a psychopathic murderer. Could you explain why you said that?

Jimmy Massey: I was a psychopathic murderer because I was trained to kill. I was not born with that mentality. It was the Marines that trained me to be a gangster in the interest of US corporations, a criminal. They trained me to fulfill, without thinking, the orders of the President of the United States and bring him what he asked for, without any moral consideration. I was a psychopath because we were trained to shoot first and ask later, as an insane person would act, not a professional soldier that is to face another soldier. If we had to kill women and children, we would do it; therefore, we were not soldiers, we were mercenaries.

Rosa Miriam: What specific experience of yours made you reach that conclusion?

Jimmy Massey: Well, there were some of them. Our mission was to go to different cities and guarantee security in the roads. There was an accident in particular—and many others as well—which really put me in a serious situation. It was about a car with Iraqi civilians. All intelligence reports said that those cars had bombs and explosives on board. That was the information that we received. When those cars approached our areas we made warning shots; when they did not slow down to the speed we indicated, we would shoot at them without ceremony.

Rosa Miriam: You shot at them with your machineguns?

Jimmy Massey: Yes, We expected to see explosions every time we riddle the cars with bullets; but we never heard or see an explosion. Then we opened the car and all we found was people killed or wounded, not a single weapon, not a single Al Qaeda propaganda, nothing. We only found civilians in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Rosa Miriam: In your book, you also described how your platoon machine-gunned peaceful demonstrators. Is that right?

Jimmy Massey: Right. In the surroundings of the Rasheed Military Complex, South of Baghdad and near the Tigris River, there was a group of people staging a demonstration, right at the end of the street. They were youths; they had no weapons. So, when we advanced, we saw a tank parked on one side of the street, the driver told us that they were peaceful demonstrators. If those Iraqi people had had any violent intentions, they would have blown up the tank; but they did not. They were only staging a demonstration. That calmed us down because we thought that «if they were there to shoot at us, they had already had enough time to do so. » They were standing about 200 meters from our patrol.

Rosa Miriam: Who gave the order to shoot at the demonstrators?

Jimmy Massey: We were told by the high command to keep watching those civilians, because many combatants with the Republican Forces had taken off their uniforms and were wearing civilian clothes to undertake terrorist attacks against US soldiers. The intelligence reports we received were known basically by every member in the commanding chain. All marines were well aware about the structure of the commanding chain that was set up in Iraq. I think that the order to shoot at the demonstrators came from high-rank US administration officers, which included both military intelligence agencies and governmental circles.

Rosa Miriam: And what did you do?

Jimmy Massey: I returned to my vehicle, my Humvee (a highly equipped jeep) and I heard the sound of a shot over my head. My marines started shooting, so did I. We were not shot back, and I had already shot 12 times. I wanted to make sure that we had killed people according to combat requirements set by the Geneva Convention and the operational proceedings established in the rules. I tried not to look at their faces, I only looked for weapons, but I found none.

Rosa Miriam: How did your superior officers react at that?

Jimmy Massey: They told me that «shit happens. »

Rosa Miriam: And when your marines found out that they had been deceived, what was their reaction?

Jimmy Massey: I was second in command. My marines asked me why we were killing so many civilians. « Can you talk to the lieutenant? », the answer was «No». But when they found out that it all was a lie, they were really mad.
Our first mission in Iraq was not aimed at offering humanitarian assistance, as the media said, but to secure oil fields in Bassora. In the city of Karbala, we used our artillery during 24 hours; it was the first city we attacked. I thought we were there to give the population food and medical assistance. Negative. We kept on advancing towards the oil fields.
Before arriving in Iraq we went to Kuwait. We got there in January 2003 with our vehicles loaded with food and medicines. I asked the lieutenant what we were going to do with all those supplies, since we had little room for us with so much stuff. He told me that his captain had ordered him to download everything in Kuwait. Shortly after that, we were ordered to burn everything, all the food and the medical supplies.

Rosa Miriam: You have also denounced the use of depleted uranium...

Jimmy Massey: I am 35 years old and I only have 80 percent of my lung capacity left. I have been diagnosed a degenerative disease in my backbone, chronic fatigue and pains in my tendons. You know, I used to run 10 kilometers just because I liked to run, and now I can only walk between 5 and 6 kilometers every day. I am afraid of having children because of that. I got a swollen face. Look at this picture (He shows me the photo on his Book Fair credential). This photo was taken shortly after I returned from Iraq. I look like Frankenstein. I owe all that to depleted uranium, now you can imagine what is happening to the people in Iraq.

Rosa Miriam: And what happened when you returned to the United States?

Jimmy Massey: They treated me as if I were crazy, as if I were a coward, a traitor.

Rosa Miriam: Your superior officers have said that all you have revealed is a lie.

Jimmy Massey: There is overwhelming evidence against them. The US armed forces are finished. The longer the war, the bigger chance for my truth to be known.

Rosa Miriam: The book you have presented in Venezuela has been published in Spanish and French. Why haven’t you published it in the United States?

Jimmy Massey: The publishing houses have requested the elimination of real names of the people involved and the presentation of the war in Iraq in sort of a mist that makes it less crude, and I am not willing to do that. Publishing houses like New Press, an alleged left wing entity, refused to publish the book because they fear to be involved in a dispute raised by the people described in the story.

Jimmy Massey´s association, IVAW «Iraq Veterans against the War» organized a protest march in the United States to denounce the illegal and cruel US invasion.
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Rosa Miriam: Why some media outlets like The New York Times and The Washington Post never reproduced your testimony?

Jimmy Massey: I never echoed the official version of the facts, which says that US troops were in Iraq to help the people; I never repeated their story that civilians there died in accidents. I refused to say that. I did not see any accidental shooting against the Iraqi and I refused to lie.

Rosa Miriam: Have you changed that stance?

Jimmy Massey: No. What they have done is to add opinions and books by people with conscious objections: those who are against the war in general or those who participated in the war but who did not have this kind of experience. They are still reluctant to look straight to reality.

Rosa Miriam: Do you have any photos or documents that may prove what you have told us?

Jimmy Massey: No, I don’t. They stripped me of all my belongings when I was ordered to return to the United States. I returned home only with two weapons: my mind and a knife.

Rosa Miriam: Do you think there is a short-time solution to the war?

Jimmy Massey: No, I don’t think so. What I see is the same policy being practiced either by democrats or republicans. They are the same thing. The war is a business for both parties, since they depend on the Military Industrial Complex. We need a third party.

Rosa Miriam: Which one?

Jimmy Massey: the party of Socialism.

Rosa Miriam: You have participated in a workshop titled «The United States: The Revolution is Possible. » Do you really think that a revolution could take place in the United States?

Jimmy Massey: It has already begun to take place in the South, where I was born.

Rosa Miriam: But southern United States has traditionally been the most conservative zone in your country.

Jimmy Massey: That changed after Katrina. New Orleans looks like Baghdad. The people in the South are indignant and they wonder every day how comes that Washington invests in a useless war and in Baghdad, while it has not invested in New Orleans. You must recall that the first big rebellion in the United States started in the South.

Rosa Miriam: Would you be willing to visit Cuba?

Jimmy Massey: I admire Fidel and the Cuban people, and if I am invited to visit, for sure I would. I do not mind what my government might say to me. Nobody will control me.

US marines urinated on the statue of Jose Marti, La Habana, 11 march 1949.
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Rosa Miriam: Do you know that the symbol of US imperial despise against our nation is precisely a photo depicting some marines as they urinated on the statue of Jose Marti, who is the Cuban National Independence Hero?

Jimmy Massey: Yes, I do. In the Marine Corps they spoke of Cuba as a US colony and they taught us some history. As part of his training, a marine must learn facts about the countries he is expected to invade, as the song goes.

Rosa Miriam: What song, the marines´ song?

Jimmy Massey: (singing) « From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli…»

Rosa Miriam: That means that the marines want to be in all parts of the world?

Jimmy Massey: Their dream is to control the world..., no matter if in that effort we all are turned into murderers.

Videos available: An interview with Jimmy Massey on Venezuelan Television, Caracas, november 2007.

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